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Has been, will be…?
Shiv , india: Jul 8 2009
Made Popular Jul 9 2009
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Has been, will be…?Cholche cholbe are the magic words one hears as soon one enters Bengal. The proposal to set up a campus of Amu in Murshidabad is another instance of religious politicking in the name of secularism. I wonder why as Aligarh is not in Pakistan or across Suez.

The strategic location of Murshidabad being close to border of Bangladesh can make it hotbed of Jihadis the porous border will add to safe heavens. I wonder why politicians are so deprived of creativity that religious ring fencing is the only strategy they can think of to ring fence their vote bank. Even there they are not sure as to what exactly they want.

BJP is a part of the Hindus, by the Hindus & for the Hindus then why they admit Muslims to its membership. Is it kind of persuading them to yield to avoid another Gujarat once BJP is in power? Similarly, I wonder what secularism is all about. Is it freedom to practice any religion or is it wooing of Muslims.

Similar is the case with Mayawati who claims to be the sole champion of Dalits appointed by the decree of god almighty. I wonder what business she has then in wooing upper/other castes? Similar is the case in down south where language is a big issue. Not an issue when color is an issue in America and UK.

I wonder how the color or religion of President Obama matters. The cat can be of any color and breed so long it catches mice. Coming back to point I think state has no business throwing public money in its own election campaign. Theology can be taught as al elective as a part of humanity stream in all universities.

After all both Sanskrit and Urdu are rich languages (no point in debating their age, there is place both for a hymn/Shloka and a Rubai. But then how can politicians fool masses? Delivering good governance is not in their blood (at least not every one can do that) so the dumb one take the shelter under religion. Divide and rule is potent liquor.

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Manishkumar
Kottayam, India
Shiv
"Campus of AMU in Murshidbad will be a hotbed for jihadis" reflects your perception about the Muslim community. It shows that you don't trust the Muslims.
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Nitesh
Chennai, India
AMU has been defamed by the Hindu rightists. It is one of the best educational institutions in India.
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Shiv
india, India
pl tell me how many students from AMU are employed in the top 100 indian cos?
why amu? why not a world class university
why in murshidabad only ?
why out of public funding
so many engineering/medical colleges do come from pvt funding because demand is there
pl tell me how many non muslims are there in amu
whya separate university for muslims
what is so special about them?
what are there needs which a normal university can not full fill
why not a poly technique which will impart vocational training & will create self employment
why state should put money in religious studies
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Arjun
NCR, India
I will like you to find yourslef how many are top 100 indian cos... but from chief Justice . to VP .. and many other big people have been from there. Habib, Nizami.. are just among few examples of great historians who have been a part of AMU

First of all why do you think AMU is not world class university
Second: why not murshidabad? Isn’t it in India. And if you are so scared so you must wnat to be given to bangladesh?

Third: univeristy is always from public funding

Fourth: If pvt college are there and no making you ’terrorist’.. then how would AMU do ?

Fifth: 30 percent are non-muslim in AMU . One alumni is me.

Sexth: Why separate university for Hindis or christians: BHU, St. stephens .. and other such colleges should be banned ? how many muslins are there in BHU ?

Seventh: they are part of India, like others are, sadly including you .

Eighth: Similar to SC/ST they too are not much priviledged, and some support won’t be bad for them. And it will only help India as much its people are educated, why not from any section or religion.

Ninth: A university will not only produce voactional students but will also ensure that students of every calibre are there

Tenth: University courses are regulated by UGC. and vedas, and other religion courses are also taught inother university. Why don’t you ask wht students time are wasted in school for prayers or why government money is wasted in religious functions before any event?


I hope i have answered most of whys.
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Shiv
india, India
most of the colleges you have referred to have been founded out of donations
i am against any public funding on religious grounds
in any case what has been done can not be undone
is it not true that amu is sympathetic to those who have been accused of being muslim terrorists
at least they have never condemned the terror attacks openly
many of simi activists are from amu
i have nothing against or for any religion
if i could ,i would have banished god from public life( i am a believer in god)
of what use is a religion which breeds hatred
majhab nahin sikhata apas main bair rakhna
hindi hain hum watan hai hindostaan hamara
religion is generally a matter of chance
i might have been a taliban
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Shiv
india, India
arjun ,you being from this institution i can understand your defense
pl think will you go back to amu given a choice
have no idea what you do
an institution funded by public at this scale is not mean only for arm chair intellectuals or theologists or people in literature
it has to see that its students can have a decent standard of living by way of honest means while contributing to the nation or society
only you are the best judge if it is being achieved
then again why murshidabad of all places why not varanasi or patna or say chennai
what is so special about murshidabad?
it remains near border & falls in a sensitive area & may produce fodder for jihadis no distrust but possibility is strong
i have no first hand knowledge about amu but carry an impression that it produces students who are sympathetic to muslim cause above all any thing else
this can not be the object of state
i may be wrong if so i withdraw my remarks & tender an unqualified apology
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Arjun
NCR, India
Hey apology is no issue; because i don’t think i have succeeded in convincing you. If you want you can have my apology.



I have been in that institution and I will again go back there if given a chance. Of course i hated teachers but they were like any central university teacher. permanent for always, so no worry about performance.



Arm chair intellectuals are among the biggest contributor in life, because they tell people what they should be aspiring for. And secondly it is not that AMU has only made arm-chair studnets , it is just that they are the famous ones. My own freinds and seniors are parctisng and doing good in various H Courts and Supreme Court. And so are other engineers who are well placed in various MNC’s. in 5 years stat there more than 50 Civil servants were made.

Mushiradabad must have been decided as it will cater to North East India. For students of Varanasi, Aligarh is enough. That is why another campus has been decided for South India in Kerela.

And yeah AMU students are sympathetic to Muslim issues. Their issue of being given equal rights and respect. Maybe because spending so much time with Muslims they realize that they are also humans and not different from others. and it clears that the perception of society which sees Muslim issue has being sympathetic to terrorism is baseless.
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