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I was shocked to find that in Kanpur a dress code is sought to be enforced for both students & teachers in girl/co ed educational institutions whereby they are prevented from wearing jeans & short tops.
Teachers can not even wear sleeve less blouses( despite my dislike I take offence at such ban ). It is said that such clothes attract unwanted attention & may lead to sexual harassment which police can not prevent.
I wonder tomorrow a hijab may be enforced. Yes tight fitting clothes make a lady feel sensuous or may be attractive as it brings out her sex appeal. But a rose is beautiful wherever placed (no support for nudity though).
I think what is required is sensitivity, maturity & firm handling of offenders & not such pervert dictates. I wonder, why it is not a problem else where or may be it is, as Ms. Sheela Dixit said at the murder of ladies traveling late in Delhi that they have no business to be on road at that hour.
Ladies of the world what are you waiting for? Rights are never given in alms. They have to be earned & protected.
Blood , seat & tears are the price for freedom.
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Chris
Jun 13 2009
Mexico City,
Mexico
See what happens when you wear provocative outfits - you drive men crazy !!
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(Global Perspectives)
Mariam
Jun 13 2009
Lahore,
Pakistan
Blame the woman. *sigh* Why do men never have to take any responsibility?
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(Global Perspectives)
Pathetic that a school would waste time over such trivial matters. They should be encouraging creativity and individuality, not forcing conformity down their throats.
(Global Perspectives)
Oh Great news!! This means now we'll not see a single eve teasing, rape or abuse report coming from U.P.
(Local Perspectives)
Why not present all of them with veils, or more effective would be kill all the girls.
No women, no crime against them...
No women, no crime against them...
(Local Perspectives)
How absurd. The behavior, liberty and freedom of expression of the women is impaired because of the bad behavior of the men. How stupid is that?
(Global Perspectives)
Another example where victim is punished for the crime.
Why don't you name India as Saudi- Arabia 2 and then you can even punish women who have been raped.
Or name your institutes as Taliban-2
Why don't you name India as Saudi- Arabia 2 and then you can even punish women who have been raped.
Or name your institutes as Taliban-2
(Local Perspectives)
I once asked an Asian work colleague (born here but of Indian descent) why women weren’t allowed to pray in the mosques.
He looked at me like I was stupid and explained it’s so the men don’t have to look at women’s bottoms when they kneel over to pray.
Obviously the women’s fault then
He looked at me like I was stupid and explained it’s so the men don’t have to look at women’s bottoms when they kneel over to pray.
Obviously the women’s fault then
(Global Perspectives)
Indian men are uncivilized perverts.
I can't imagine what will happen if their girls wore micro mini skirts
I can't imagine what will happen if their girls wore micro mini skirts
(Global Perspectives)
If a woman dresses provocatively she should expect to be the victim of a sex crime. That's like saying that if you walk down the street with a wallet bulging in your back pocket you deserve to be robbed... Quite Strange!!
(Global Perspectives)
When reading this article if might be best to consider the damage to morals that western women styles really do. Some sort of moderation is appropriate. I cannot say whether or not the rule described briefly in this article is appropriate or not. But something ought to be done.
(Local Perspectives)
”consider the damage to morals that western women styles really do”
So only women are responsible for morals? Men have no morals? They are totally unaccountable for their actions? I guess all beaches and swimming pools should be closed too? Or should they just be closed to women?
So only women are responsible for morals? Men have no morals? They are totally unaccountable for their actions? I guess all beaches and swimming pools should be closed too? Or should they just be closed to women?
(Global Perspectives)
nuya
It is true that such restrictions are for women only and no body questions the men but it's the way the world works. We can't revolt immediately.
It is true that such restrictions are for women only and no body questions the men but it's the way the world works. We can't revolt immediately.
(Local Perspectives)
Not just in Pakistan, Law Enforcement Agencies seems to be weak in that part of the world tooo...
Even they find it easier to implement changes on people’s life style, rather than punishing the culprits.
Even they find it easier to implement changes on people’s life style, rather than punishing the culprits.
(Global Perspectives)
when we put such kind of bans we are actually promoting the myth that “” Some women deserve to be raped and harrassed because of the way they dress, act, etc. They cause a man to “lose control.”
(Global Perspectives)
Exactly!!!! Today it is jeans, tomorrow it will be sandals, the day after that anything less than an overcoat until, you are only allowed a full burka and gloves, and huge shoulder pads so the garment does not even hint at your shape underneath. Then even that won’t be enough, because just like in KSA, some minister of obsession will say that 2 eye holes are too many, only 1 eye hole is needed. When it gets so uncomfortable that you choose to just stay home 24/7 then they will paint your windows black like in Afghanistan.
It started with 1 article of clothing.
It started with 1 article of clothing.
(Global Perspectives)
WHAT????? You are saying that Indian men cannot control themselves if they see a pretty girl in jeans. You can’t be serious.
They need to see a psychiatrist.
They need to see a psychiatrist.
(Global Perspectives)
what is required is to act decisively, firmly & award swift & deterrent punishment to the culprits instead of taking soft option which is nothing but a shameless abdication of responsibility
the state has lost its moral right to govern
the state has lost its moral right to govern
(Local Perspectives)
Bloody all the South- Asian countries are same. People are still primitive and sick.
(Global Perspectives)
What on earth is wrong with these men, are they just a life support for a walking penis?
Is that the definition of a male?
Have they absolutely no control when they see a women in anything?
For goodness sake, these stupid men have to stop behaving like primates!
Is that the definition of a male?
Have they absolutely no control when they see a women in anything?
For goodness sake, these stupid men have to stop behaving like primates!
(Global Perspectives)
a walking penis
ha ha ha ha!!! Too good Lynne!! And you are right, this is what they are when they can't have control on them on seeing a girl wearing jeans.
They have their brain functioning from a different organ altogether. LOL!
(Local Perspectives)
Banning jeans and t shirts will not serve the purpose. A sari can be more provocative than these western outfits depending on how it is worn.
I think the girl or woman should be sensible enough to decide how a dress would make her look. Its not that every girl looks sensuous in jeans. Those who do look very provocative in that attire should try out something else in an academic environment. But this should not be generalised.
I think the girl or woman should be sensible enough to decide how a dress would make her look. Its not that every girl looks sensuous in jeans. Those who do look very provocative in that attire should try out something else in an academic environment. But this should not be generalised.
(Local Perspectives)
This would lead to banning all but the fattest and ugliest women from public. Do you want to be the one who decides?
(Global Perspectives)
Why should I be the judge ? The wearer should know her body and the kind of impact her dresses might create on the public. In India, if a college student wears a revealing dress she should be prepared to take in some indecent comments and advances and handle that. You can’t blame the observer for that.
I think its rather the fat ones with their ultra big dimensions in tightfitting dresses that invite trouble for themselves. As ugliness is measured on a personal meter, I don’t want to comment on that.
I think its rather the fat ones with their ultra big dimensions in tightfitting dresses that invite trouble for themselves. As ugliness is measured on a personal meter, I don’t want to comment on that.
(Local Perspectives)
I was never judging. I think you got me wrong. I was asking the wearer of a dress to judge for herself.
(Local Perspectives)
what on earth can solve Uttar Pradesh’s problems? -Education.
Will our Uttar Pradesh politicians ensure good literacy, education? -No.
When dowry is still prevalent what does one expect regarding respect to women.. NO one will respect, neither the woman’s family members as they have to give dowry, nor those on other side as it is only a money deal for them.
There lie no solutions to these problems. BUt, neways, teasing is not this bad in other parts of India. Girls can feel free and roam safely in the nights in Bangalore, Pune and Mumbai. this is something typical of a few select places.
Will our Uttar Pradesh politicians ensure good literacy, education? -No.
When dowry is still prevalent what does one expect regarding respect to women.. NO one will respect, neither the woman’s family members as they have to give dowry, nor those on other side as it is only a money deal for them.
There lie no solutions to these problems. BUt, neways, teasing is not this bad in other parts of India. Girls can feel free and roam safely in the nights in Bangalore, Pune and Mumbai. this is something typical of a few select places.
(Global Perspectives)
Very nice move by the school authorities. Those who want to show off their sex appeal can do that after school. Most MNCs in India have dresscodes which include ties for men. It is extremely inconvenient in such hot climate. Men and women take it as a matter of professional ethics. There is no hue and cry for the right to show off cleavages and butt cracks there. Btw even in my company in Utah, USA has strict dresscodes for men and women. Women are not allowed to wear shorter than knee length skirts and no visible tats allowed for anyone. Hey people.. go back to work, there is no taliban or saudi here.
(Global Perspectives)
some suggestions
1 a chastity belt
2 compulsory sterlization of all fertile women
3 public toilets so that men can relieve themselves
1 a chastity belt
2 compulsory sterlization of all fertile women
3 public toilets so that men can relieve themselves
(Local Perspectives)
how about putting all girls from 13 to 65 in protective custody or banish them from up
na rahega baans na bajegi shahnai
na rahega baans na bajegi shahnai
(Local Perspectives)
let ladies be invisible once they are out of houses
they may also be givena guard dog
they may also be givena guard dog
(Local Perspectives)
how about compulsory castrating of all men with mean minds ekdum khalas
ladies you can then be bilkul bindaas
ladies you can then be bilkul bindaas
(Local Perspectives)
why no dress code for man
are they not attractive enough?
hritik roshan &shahid kappor also imran khan pl do take note
srk is absent by design also big b
are they not attractive enough?
hritik roshan &shahid kappor also imran khan pl do take note
srk is absent by design also big b
(Local Perspectives)
No dress code for men because they dont wear indecent. Shiv you need some serious help!
(Global Perspectives)
Wearing jeans is in no way indecent you fool and if it is then the guys should also roam around in Kurta-Payjama.
(Local Perspectives)
Well, then if all the men of India are always walking around in an excited state as you claim, then it is most certainly indecent! No one wants to see that bulge, that is disgusting! The men should be made to wear something to conceal that.
(Global Perspectives)
let the ladies of the world go for a whole sale sex change
let the robots take over & do the rest
to hell with d... mcp
let the robots take over & do the rest
to hell with d... mcp
(Local Perspectives)
Look at the picture on this blog..... anyone seeing anything provocative there is definitely a sex starved degenerate.
(Global Perspectives)
Shiv
I think your comments are hilarious and to the point.
In Australia all our schools have standard uniforms, which are basic, usually a bit stylish but very practical for the seasons, so everyone looks the same and the kids are usually proud to wear their school colours and uniforms, and as a Mum I think its great, I buy a few uniforms then it saves on their clothes.
May be this could be implimented in your schools so it makes it harder to pick out the sexy ones when they all look the same.
I think your comments are hilarious and to the point.
In Australia all our schools have standard uniforms, which are basic, usually a bit stylish but very practical for the seasons, so everyone looks the same and the kids are usually proud to wear their school colours and uniforms, and as a Mum I think its great, I buy a few uniforms then it saves on their clothes.
May be this could be implimented in your schools so it makes it harder to pick out the sexy ones when they all look the same.
(Global Perspectives)
Uniforms in college? We have them for all little kids but not for adults.
(Global Perspectives)
@Lynne,
We do have proper uniform in the schools till the 12th standard however they have imposed restrictions on just the girls going to the college.
And the restriction is that they cannot wear western dresses to the college including jeans. They have to be in the traditional indian wear. This is not the dress code but a restriction on the freedom of girls, so that boys doesn't get turned on. How foolish and primitive thought process...
We do have proper uniform in the schools till the 12th standard however they have imposed restrictions on just the girls going to the college.
And the restriction is that they cannot wear western dresses to the college including jeans. They have to be in the traditional indian wear. This is not the dress code but a restriction on the freedom of girls, so that boys doesn't get turned on. How foolish and primitive thought process...
(Local Perspectives)
Ekta,
I agree that it is just a restriction on girl’s freedom.
I don’t agree that it has anything to do with boys getting turned on. Boys get turned on by everything!!! A cat, a can of soda, a knot hole in a plank of wood, a slight breeze....ANYTHING...no female even has to be in the area. They wake up that way and they go to sleep that way, that is just hormones, they have to learn to deal with it!
I am telling you ...it is just an excuse to punish girls for wanting equal rights.
I agree that it is just a restriction on girl’s freedom.
I don’t agree that it has anything to do with boys getting turned on. Boys get turned on by everything!!! A cat, a can of soda, a knot hole in a plank of wood, a slight breeze....ANYTHING...no female even has to be in the area. They wake up that way and they go to sleep that way, that is just hormones, they have to learn to deal with it!
I am telling you ...it is just an excuse to punish girls for wanting equal rights.
(Global Perspectives)
Yes, i agree Nuya. The basic cause is that they are scared to see women gaining power day by day and them loosing it. Now it has become difficult for them to treat women as their slave or an object, this is what is bothering them inside.
(Local Perspectives)
Girls wear jeans and other western wear in India today. There are of course some colleges that prescribe the traditional Indian wear for women -a sari or salwar suit. Indian women and girls look dignified in their traditional wear and it is in keeping with the much-esteemed culture of this nation. The traditional indian wear is doing the rounds in fashion circles internationally too. Rather than restrict the freedom of women, these dresses bring out the true beauty and grace of the Indian woman. If worn well people can look umpteen times more fashionable than in jeans. I think traditional indian wear is a very wise and modern thuoght process ! But this does not mean that girls should not wear jeans to college. They should be allowed to if they want to.
(Local Perspectives)
i 4 states dress code is being imposed
i am sure in due course men will have to weardhoti kurta, pajama with a cap 7 will have to drape themselves in tricolor to prove that they love their country
in bengal teachers of a premier school were confined & assaulted because they refuse to wear white saris which in any case is considered to be inauspicious for married women
parents also assaulted with handy missiles
as predicted police refused to register a case
i am sure in due course men will have to weardhoti kurta, pajama with a cap 7 will have to drape themselves in tricolor to prove that they love their country
in bengal teachers of a premier school were confined & assaulted because they refuse to wear white saris which in any case is considered to be inauspicious for married women
parents also assaulted with handy missiles
as predicted police refused to register a case
(Local Perspectives)
in whichever mind there is khalistan there exists taliban
an empty mind is the devils workshop
soon all students will be required to either marry each other or tie rakhis bravo india
there is no place for friendship as every one is supossed to be a black sheep
an empty mind is the devils workshop
soon all students will be required to either marry each other or tie rakhis bravo india
there is no place for friendship as every one is supossed to be a black sheep
(Local Perspectives)
Pl do not blame them instead acquire their xray eyes which are always focused on … spot even in their dreams
Constantly feeding on girly magazines, trashy novels & sleeze their eyes are popping out of their sockets, tongue hanging out & mouth salivating
They are like a kid in candy shop going berserk & out of control at the slightest provocation
So why not blind fold them or put them through some psychic treatment
may bea stint in a monastry
Constantly feeding on girly magazines, trashy novels & sleeze their eyes are popping out of their sockets, tongue hanging out & mouth salivating
They are like a kid in candy shop going berserk & out of control at the slightest provocation
So why not blind fold them or put them through some psychic treatment
may bea stint in a monastry
(Local Perspectives)
Pl do not blame them instead acquire their xray eyes which are always focused on … spot even in their dreams
Constantly feeding on girly magazines, trashy novels & sleeze their eyes are popping out of their sockets, tongue hanging out & mouth salivating
They are like a kid in candy shop going berserk & out of control at the slightest provocation
So why not blind fold them or put them through some psychic treatment
may be a stint in a monastry
Constantly feeding on girly magazines, trashy novels & sleeze their eyes are popping out of their sockets, tongue hanging out & mouth salivating
They are like a kid in candy shop going berserk & out of control at the slightest provocation
So why not blind fold them or put them through some psychic treatment
may be a stint in a monastry
(Local Perspectives)
Nuya & Ekta
I probably didn’t read the article properly to start with, nor do I understand your school system - our kids usually go to school until about 18 years old and still wear uniforms, although they are considered seniors, but after 18 they are adults and should be able to wear what they like, but they will want to be employed one day.
So from my personal experience when I employed young girls to train, I preferred neatly attired with a dress sense, without the bum cracks and vuluptuous cleavages, which did seem to upset the little old ladies more than the guys who came into my shop.
It surprises and amuses me - the amount of problems Indians have between the sexes, and the men not being able to control themselves - well so it looks to an outsider.
I probably didn’t read the article properly to start with, nor do I understand your school system - our kids usually go to school until about 18 years old and still wear uniforms, although they are considered seniors, but after 18 they are adults and should be able to wear what they like, but they will want to be employed one day.
So from my personal experience when I employed young girls to train, I preferred neatly attired with a dress sense, without the bum cracks and vuluptuous cleavages, which did seem to upset the little old ladies more than the guys who came into my shop.
It surprises and amuses me - the amount of problems Indians have between the sexes, and the men not being able to control themselves - well so it looks to an outsider.
(Global Perspectives)
It really surprises me since one of my best friends in college was a guy from India. We all hung out together in mixed groups, no one ever thought anything of it.
Maybe it is just that middle to upper income people tend to be better educated or less likely to feel the need to suppress others to feel important. I know growing up on the poor side of town, everyone was very into gender roles. When I grew up and got away from that impoverished mentality, I did not see gender bias like that.
Whatever it is, I hope they get it sorted out amicably in the near future.
Maybe it is just that middle to upper income people tend to be better educated or less likely to feel the need to suppress others to feel important. I know growing up on the poor side of town, everyone was very into gender roles. When I grew up and got away from that impoverished mentality, I did not see gender bias like that.
Whatever it is, I hope they get it sorted out amicably in the near future.
(Global Perspectives)
i think girls should wear a magic hat & should become invisible when within sighting distance of boys or boys should be unable to recognize girls
i do not think the administration will guarantee non harassment on non wearing of jeans
at this rate at all beaches or swimming pools there should be frequent rapes
the maid who was raped by an actor in mumbai was perhaps not wearing a jeans
i do not think rape rate is more in western world compared to india
utter nonsense
a feeble attempt to hide their inefficiency /incompetence
like asking some one not to have any valuable so that no one can steal the same
i think boys/men should all attend baba ramdev’s yoga classes to control themselves
i do not think the administration will guarantee non harassment on non wearing of jeans
at this rate at all beaches or swimming pools there should be frequent rapes
the maid who was raped by an actor in mumbai was perhaps not wearing a jeans
i do not think rape rate is more in western world compared to india
utter nonsense
a feeble attempt to hide their inefficiency /incompetence
like asking some one not to have any valuable so that no one can steal the same
i think boys/men should all attend baba ramdev’s yoga classes to control themselves
(Local Perspectives)
Shiv, you are right, their argument is not logical and is utter nonsense.
The maid who was raped by an actor, knew him he was not a stranger on the street. She would have been safer on the street because almost all rapes are committed by someone the victim knows. Changing the way women dress won’t change that.
Again, I will say that it has nothing to do with fear of rape, it is about having control over women.
Women walk around in jeans here all the time, day and night and there is no Eve teasing.
The maid who was raped by an actor, knew him he was not a stranger on the street. She would have been safer on the street because almost all rapes are committed by someone the victim knows. Changing the way women dress won’t change that.
Again, I will say that it has nothing to do with fear of rape, it is about having control over women.
Women walk around in jeans here all the time, day and night and there is no Eve teasing.
(Global Perspectives)
Nuya
Let us not, in the name of equality, liberty and modernity, tread the path of the so-called liberated women of the West. This may sound conservative, but it is not so. One should never deride and discard certain good things just for the reason they are age-old customs or accept and glorify anything solely because it is new and modern, without delving deeply into the pros and cons of it.
http://www.hindu.com/op/2005/10/09/stories/2005100901191400.htm
Let us not, in the name of equality, liberty and modernity, tread the path of the so-called liberated women of the West. This may sound conservative, but it is not so. One should never deride and discard certain good things just for the reason they are age-old customs or accept and glorify anything solely because it is new and modern, without delving deeply into the pros and cons of it.
http://www.hindu.com/op/2005/10/09/stories/2005100901191400.htm
(Local Perspectives)
Excuse me!!! It is not ”SO CALLED” and the term ”liberated woman” went out of fashion like 30 or 40 years ago. There is no need for such labels once equality is achieved, only when it is still being fought for. That is how you will know that women are no longer being oppressed... when you no longer feel the need for there to be separate rules for them.
(Global Perspectives)
That link was the biggest load of crap! All that stupid talk of pinning one’s clothing!!! Ridiculous! If how women dress ”CAUSES” Eve teasing, why doesn’t it happen in America????? Why doesn’t it happen in France or Germany or Sweden? It only happens where women are oppressed, that is why!!
Telling women it is their fault that they are being molested is just another form of abuse and oppression.
Telling women it is their fault that they are being molested is just another form of abuse and oppression.
(Global Perspectives)
how women will know what effect any one may have on seeing them
what about child abuse ?
do they wear sexy, revealing outfits?
what of sodomy ?
i think women have become objects of consumption
a trophy
a sense of achievement when a women is overpowered & is subjected to ultimate humiliation
when the most intimate parts of her body no , the core of her soul is violated
death penalty is too small a punishment for such demons
in fact they are sick & should be in asylum,
try lodging a complaint for eve teasing & see what kind of looks you may get from police as if you are soliciting
really shameful
what about child abuse ?
do they wear sexy, revealing outfits?
what of sodomy ?
i think women have become objects of consumption
a trophy
a sense of achievement when a women is overpowered & is subjected to ultimate humiliation
when the most intimate parts of her body no , the core of her soul is violated
death penalty is too small a punishment for such demons
in fact they are sick & should be in asylum,
try lodging a complaint for eve teasing & see what kind of looks you may get from police as if you are soliciting
really shameful
(Local Perspectives)
imposing a dress code when the state is incapable of providing security to women RIGHT
dress code in the land of kajuraho & kamsutra ?
let the state give a guarantee that following the same will put an end to crime against women
has it happened any where ?
dropadi was in a sari when she was disrobed
to day once again she is being disrobed & like bhishma the state is help less
alas there is no krishna so the dropadi has to take up the arms & kill dusshashan donning the robes of goddess durga
is this what state wants ?
in the ramayan era as per late ramanand sagar women used to be top less so >>.
dress code have i heard right .
dress code in the land of kajuraho & kamsutra ?
let the state give a guarantee that following the same will put an end to crime against women
has it happened any where ?
dropadi was in a sari when she was disrobed
to day once again she is being disrobed & like bhishma the state is help less
alas there is no krishna so the dropadi has to take up the arms & kill dusshashan donning the robes of goddess durga
is this what state wants ?
in the ramayan era as per late ramanand sagar women used to be top less so >>.
dress code have i heard right .
(Local Perspectives)
Shiv
you are right. Dress code is just an excuse to dominate the women.The crime against women can't be checked by imposing a dress code.
you are right. Dress code is just an excuse to dominate the women.The crime against women can't be checked by imposing a dress code.
(Local Perspectives)
ok i concede the collage is not disco so micro mini, see through dresses, short tank top & sphegeti top is not appropriate may be off shoulder dress also so also back less choli
but dress code banning western out fitS
GIVE ME A BREAK
what dress code sita followed when she was kidnapped was wearing a sari i believe
what dress code rambha, menka & urvashi followed in indra sabha
what dress code saraswati the daughter of bramha followed when he chased her like a man possessed despite being ultimate in knowledge
so.....
but dress code banning western out fitS
GIVE ME A BREAK
what dress code sita followed when she was kidnapped was wearing a sari i believe
what dress code rambha, menka & urvashi followed in indra sabha
what dress code saraswati the daughter of bramha followed when he chased her like a man possessed despite being ultimate in knowledge
so.....
(Local Perspectives)
Brilliant idea ,let all women become nuns
What men are going to do then ?
Spend their life in asylum or…
What men are going to do then ?
Spend their life in asylum or…
(Local Perspectives)
Even if all women became nuns, men would say he saw her hips move under the habit when she walked, so he was incited. If you don’t believe, see what deranged men say when they harass women who are wearing veils.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29083688//
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7514567.stm
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29083688//
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7514567.stm
(Global Perspectives)
yesterday a man walked in to a premier girls school went to class 10 stripped completely before teacher & students made some obscene gestures put on his clothes & went some girls went in to shock others vomited
none of them were in western outfits
what is needed is training in self defense & ability to think on their feet
only a lamb is eaten away by a wolf not a tiger
so women be tigress & tackle such situation of your own hands on & in your face
& yes pl remember it is at times better to retreat
coregeous does not means being foolhardy
god helps those who help them selves
khudi ko kar buland itna
ki khuda tujse puch teri takdir likhe
amen
be the change you want to be
none of them were in western outfits
what is needed is training in self defense & ability to think on their feet
only a lamb is eaten away by a wolf not a tiger
so women be tigress & tackle such situation of your own hands on & in your face
& yes pl remember it is at times better to retreat
coregeous does not means being foolhardy
god helps those who help them selves
khudi ko kar buland itna
ki khuda tujse puch teri takdir likhe
amen
be the change you want to be
(Local Perspectives)
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